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OpenZFS, London, Wednesday 18th December
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Andrew Gabriel
2013-12-14 13:38:18 UTC
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I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
The event runs 18:00 - 21:00 at Oracle's City Office, Moorgate, London.
Refreshments are provided, with the opportunity for networking.

Register at http://www.ukoug.org/events/ukoug-solaris-sig-meeting-dec-2013/
The event is free - you can click past the questions about invoicing.
You will need to register as a UKOUG Solaris Member if you have not
previously done so (this is also free) - links on the web page above.
--
Andrew Gabriel
YTC#1
2013-12-14 16:47:48 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
Chris Ridd
2013-12-14 18:02:26 UTC
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Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
If possible we'll video it and put it on our YouTube channel
<http://www.youtube.com/user/solarissig>
--
Chris
Andrew Gabriel
2013-12-14 19:06:48 UTC
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Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
Happy to do so, if there's a suitable meet to hook in to.
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Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
YTC#1
2013-12-15 11:34:57 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
Happy to do so, if there's a suitable meet to hook in to.
And therin lies the problem, the is no northern Solaris user group. Sun
and now Oracle never took up the gauntlet.

It could be argued that local enthusiasts do it, as was tried with Open
Solaris. But as it was really Sun organising those meetings in London
that was the only reason they got going and kept going.

Maybe hookup with the Linux groups ?

http://www.manlug.mcc.ac.uk/

Have recently done something on ZFS

Looks a bit better organised than Liverpool http://liv.lug.org.uk/wiki/

(I don't attend either of these as frankly I am more Solaris orientated)
Andrew Gabriel
2013-12-15 13:50:19 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
Happy to do so, if there's a suitable meet to hook in to.
And therin lies the problem, the is no northern Solaris user group. Sun
and now Oracle never took up the gauntlet.
Sun did - there were about 10 across the UK, some hooked into
Sun's university compass ambassador program.

I think UKOUG Solaris SIG (formerly LOSUG) is the only one left
worldwide with a regular meeting schedule. There are a handful
of other former OpenSolaris user groups around the world which
have ad-hoc meetings and have merged into their own country's
unix user group (I presented at a Netherlands one). The Silicon
Valley one decided to turn into an Illumos group, and there is
talk of forming a Silicon Valley OpenZFS group.
Post by YTC#1
It could be argued that local enthusiasts do it, as was tried with Open
Solaris. But as it was really Sun organising those meetings in London
that was the only reason they got going and kept going.
Most of the UK OpenSolaris user groups sprung up with no Sun
involvement, although we did support them by providing speakers
when they asked us. The London one was driven heavily by Sun
as you say, and was possibly the most successful worldwide,
often attracting 100 attendees (max we could cram into the room).
It transitioned to an Oracle User Group, which is run by a
committee of very enthusiastic users as Oracle doesn't allow
staff to run user groups. Its remit covers all flavours of
Solaris including Illumos, Openindiana, etc. as well as Oracle
Solaris, and that's why it still exists. We get some Linux and
FreeBSD users coming too when the topic is relevant to them
(things like ZFS, Dtrace).

The Solaris Tech Days which I ran (not the user group), and
a number of the other Solaris events I was involved in, we did
run them in the North too. Whilst I got 150 people in London
(and had to close registrations because we had overfilled the
venue), in Manchester it would be about 50, and when we did events
in Scotland, it might be less than 10 people. So Northern events
never managed to attract the numbers we could get in London.
Post by YTC#1
Maybe hookup with the Linux groups ?
http://www.manlug.mcc.ac.uk/
Have recently done something on ZFS
That's interesting. It can be a sensitive subject in Linux
circles. I've been to a couple of BTRFS presentions, and you
can detect the friction between the different Linux camps in
the audience that either want ZFS or BTRFS in Linux.
Post by YTC#1
Looks a bit better organised than Liverpool http://liv.lug.org.uk/wiki/
(I don't attend either of these as frankly I am more Solaris orientated)
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
YTC#1
2013-12-15 18:04:11 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
You need to think about coming north with this, Solaris runs beyond the
Watford Gap you know :-)
Happy to do so, if there's a suitable meet to hook in to.
And therin lies the problem, the is no northern Solaris user group. Sun
and now Oracle never took up the gauntlet.
Sun did - there were about 10 across the UK, some hooked into
Sun's university compass ambassador program.
Can't say I recollect any activity in my days, pre 2009. It was all
centred around LOSUG
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I think UKOUG Solaris SIG (formerly LOSUG) is the only one left
worldwide with a regular meeting schedule. There are a handful
of other former OpenSolaris user groups around the world which
have ad-hoc meetings and have merged into their own country's
unix user group (I presented at a Netherlands one). The Silicon
Valley one decided to turn into an Illumos group, and there is
talk of forming a Silicon Valley OpenZFS group.
Post by YTC#1
It could be argued that local enthusiasts do it, as was tried with Open
Solaris. But as it was really Sun organising those meetings in London
that was the only reason they got going and kept going.
Most of the UK OpenSolaris user groups sprung up with no Sun
involvement, although we did support them by providing speakers
when they asked us. The London one was driven heavily by Sun
as you say, and was possibly the most successful worldwide,
often attracting 100 attendees (max we could cram into the room).
It transitioned to an Oracle User Group, which is run by a
committee of very enthusiastic users as Oracle doesn't allow
staff to run user groups. Its remit covers all flavours of
Solaris including Illumos, Openindiana, etc. as well as Oracle
Solaris, and that's why it still exists. We get some Linux and
FreeBSD users coming too when the topic is relevant to them
(things like ZFS, Dtrace).
The Solaris Tech Days which I ran (not the user group), and
a number of the other Solaris events I was involved in, we did
run them in the North too. Whilst I got 150 people in London
(and had to close registrations because we had overfilled the
venue), in Manchester it would be about 50, and when we did events
The tech days are (IMO) aimed more at Business level, not enthusiast. I
gave attended them and they were well attended. I would have liked to
attend the recent LDom one in London, but was not able to. I asked about
it being repeated in the north but there seems to be no sign of it
happening.
Post by Andrew Gabriel
in Scotland, it might be less than 10 people. So Northern events
never managed to attract the numbers we could get in London.
The attraction of them being held in the Sun/Oracle offices helps I
think. And yes, there is a greater audience as that is where a lot of
companies are based (sys admins etc).

Bit it still feels very southern centric, the cost of travel to London
is high, plus time. I can only attend on the occasions I am working down
there.
Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Maybe hookup with the Linux groups ?
http://www.manlug.mcc.ac.uk/
Have recently done something on ZFS
That's interesting. It can be a sensitive subject in Linux
circles. I've been to a couple of BTRFS presentions, and you
can detect the friction between the different Linux camps in
the audience that either want ZFS or BTRFS in Linux.
I wish people could grow up.
Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by YTC#1
Looks a bit better organised than Liverpool http://liv.lug.org.uk/wiki/
(I don't attend either of these as frankly I am more Solaris orientated)
David Combs
2014-01-28 02:49:19 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
The event runs 18:00 - 21:00 at Oracle's City Office, Moorgate, London.
Refreshments are provided, with the opportunity for networking.
Register at http://www.ukoug.org/events/ukoug-solaris-sig-meeting-dec-2013/
The event is free - you can click past the questions about invoicing.
You will need to register as a UKOUG Solaris Member if you have not
previously done so (this is also free) - links on the web page above.
--
Andrew Gabriel
Of course, the vast majority of us who would LIKE
to attend won't be able to (companies all getting
tighter).

So, what can you set up via GOOD video recordings,
etc, that can be later viewed on the web?


David
Andrew Gabriel
2014-01-28 10:58:28 UTC
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Post by David Combs
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
The event runs 18:00 - 21:00 at Oracle's City Office, Moorgate, London.
Refreshments are provided, with the opportunity for networking.
Register at http://www.ukoug.org/events/ukoug-solaris-sig-meeting-dec-2013/
The event is free - you can click past the questions about invoicing.
You will need to register as a UKOUG Solaris Member if you have not
previously done so (this is also free) - links on the web page above.
Of course, the vast majority of us who would LIKE
to attend won't be able to (companies all getting
tighter).
So, what can you set up via GOOD video recordings,
etc, that can be later viewed on the web?
David,

Slides are available here:
http://www.ukoug.org/what-we-offer/library/the-openzfs-project-andrew-gabriel/


Also, note that the next "ZFS Office Hours" is tomorrow, Wed 29 Jan,
17:00 UTC:
http://www.open-zfs.org/wiki/OpenZFS_Office_Hours
Brian Behlendorf who did the Laurence Livermore port of ZFS on Linux will
be the main speaker, but the Office Hours sessions are very interactive.
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Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
Chris Ridd
2014-04-16 12:02:48 UTC
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Post by Andrew Gabriel
Post by David Combs
Post by Andrew Gabriel
I will be giving a presentation on the OpenZFS project at the
UKOUG Solaris SIG Christmas Special on Wednesday 18th December.
The event runs 18:00 - 21:00 at Oracle's City Office, Moorgate, London.
Refreshments are provided, with the opportunity for networking.
Register at http://www.ukoug.org/events/ukoug-solaris-sig-meeting-dec-2013/
The event is free - you can click past the questions about invoicing.
You will need to register as a UKOUG Solaris Member if you have not
previously done so (this is also free) - links on the web page above.
Of course, the vast majority of us who would LIKE
to attend won't be able to (companies all getting
tighter).
So, what can you set up via GOOD video recordings,
etc, that can be later viewed on the web?
David,
http://www.ukoug.org/what-we-offer/library/the-openzfs-project-andrew-gabriel/
The videos are finally up on Youtube for all those unable to be present.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMvUShDprR-VxVeHLjfEanz9w25Hhj3LI
--
Chris
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